Clans

[IceMan]

A good idea would be to be able to add new catergorys like clans, and other new places but you should be able to do this in superuser grotto i think that it would be brilliant if you could do that.

[Sneakabout]

It would be nice to have some kind of clan system, even if ti only extended to roleplaying. i.e. a message board for the clans, not being able to kill fellow clan-members, donating gems to the clan for status etc.

[MightyE]

I agree, it would be a good idea. I will see what I can do this way.

[wudu]

Indeed!
I like this idea! :)

[demonbox]

Crud, that means I would have to be nice to some people (if a clan would take me that is). :wink:

Actually, this is a great idea.

[Kether Rowan]

You should still be able to kill your clanmates. In the spirit of challenge, I don't see anything wrong with it. Collecting bounties within your clan either set by a clanmate, or placed on a clanmate; or any sort of direct exchange, should remain impossible. Donating gems for status, only if it has no real impact, such as a clan rank or notoriety level of some sort, as an unimportiant number and bragging rights. (Also Dag's deparment, he's got all the info, it seems. ;> )

[Sneakabout]

Exactly what I was thinking of when I mentioned gems for status - have a clan hierarchy with, say, the highest members of a clan able to moderate the clan forum.

Another way of encouraging people to donate gems/gold would be to have the number of posts that ye can make in the clan forum proportional to what ye give...

[Sir Freeman]

the world CLAN doesnt sound as cool as GUILD :mrgreen:
it sounds more "medevil" like ;)

(if you dont change it in 0.98 i'll change it myself ;) so dont worry :mrgreen: )

[LadyPhoenix]

I also prefer Guild. Clan just sounds like a bunch of thugs getting together to cause havoc (probably because that's what I see KoC clans doing.) Guild implies a group of people getting together to perform a positive service (or illegal one, in the case of theives.)

[Sneakabout]

Guild also implies some kind of skill. Clans sound more race-specific. Naturally, if ye were to start a Thief's Guild, it wouldn't be a Clan... it's being used as a catchall term. Maybe Associations Hall would have more neutral connotations?

*rambling*

[demonbox]

I see that Guilds are being worked on now, are becoming part of the game. Is there a part of the forum where it woul dbe good to talk about these-- The General perhaps?

I ask because I am very interested in these, but would not join one without knowing what an individual would offer to me specificly and in general, not to mention not wanting to join one that doesn't want to know what I have to offer as well...

Is the Gen part of this forum okay to discuss this, or do we need to keep such talks in game?

[JCP]

You don't necessarily need to keep it in game, but a better approach might be to send a ye olde mail to the clan leaders.

[demonbox]

Will do, thanks.

[Kether Rowan]

Okay, is it possible to set a time limit on how long somone can go between application submissions? I've denied the same Page admission 4 times today, and he doesn't seem to get it. I'm sorry, Moderator or no, my clan is under my leadership, and it's my decision. I simply don't like the kid, he's been a problem for me in the past, and he's not what I want in the clan. It's irritating having to push him off the list every few hours.

[Hammer]

It could be he's just found another way to get under your skin. A wait limit between refusals sounds like a good idea, and also a way to prevent such abuse.

I'm unsure as to how the accept/deny system works as I don't have my own clan yet. In the meantime, perhaps you could just leave him on the wait list to prevent him from reapplying?

-Hammer

[Terron]

We should get a larger post counter, some times there is only chat between two clan members.

[LadyPhoenix]

Just an addition request. Would it be possible, on the PvP screens (in the Inn and Fields) to add the name of the clan the person is in? That way, clans that prefer not to attack other clan members don't accidentally do that?

Not a huge request, just more of an idea/thought.

[JCP]

We should get a larger post counter, some times there is only chat between to clan members.

Variable post limits for each board should be one of the things currently being worked on.

[Sneakabout]

It would be nice if the amount ye could post was proportional to your rank...

[JCP]

It would be nice if the amount ye could post was proportional to your rank...

It is - Moderators and above get infinite posts.

Mere mortals not so much. :D

[Gargoyle]

Would it be possible, on the PvP screens (in the Inn and Fields) to add the name of the clan the person is in? That way, clans that prefer not to attack other clan members don't accidentally do that?Very good idea and hopefully something that can be added easily.

[Xecutioner]

If that were to happen then no controversy would spur within clans on accidently killing a clan or "guild" member.

[Luinefirithion]

I am so glad to finally see this feature!

I prefer 'guilds' as well

:D

[FanboyElric]

If you read people's bio before attacking them you'll see their clan rank/status in the header... this includes whether they're just an applicant, a member or a clan leader and what clan... should be indicitive enough for anyone looking...

[MightyE]

That's true, you could just leave him on your wait list, and ignore him. He doesn't get any more access to your clan than any other non-member. I'll think a bit about tracking whether a player has applied for a clan already for a particular game day, and block them from applying for more than one a day (maybe reset this if the user withdraws themselves, because repeatedly applying doesn't do them any good).

For those who aren't leaders of a clan, here's basically what the interface looks like (it's in columns in the game, and won't be here, but it'll give you a bit of an idea)

This is your current clan membership:
Rank Name Join Date Operations
Leader SrAdmin FrostE the Yellow Snowman 2003-12-12 23:32:25 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan
Officer Admin jcp as Santa Claus 2003-12-13 02:14:48 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan
Officer JrAdmin Karissa the Snow Angel 2003-12-13 16:31:12 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan
Member JrAdmin Kendaer as ToyShop Manage-Elf 2003-12-14 12:02:38 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan
Applicant Moderator Latke-Eating Catscradler 2003-12-13 16:31:12 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan
Applicant JrAdmin Dekion as The Scrooge 2003-12-14 00:14:40 Promote | Demote | Remove from Clan

[Hammer]

I'd rather have the feature to tell us if someone is in a clan right there on the PVP screen rather that have to look at someone's bio page. I play the majority of this game at my office, and to be honest, our connection to the net sucks. With the longer page loads and the chance of someone else stealing the kill before I can get to it, I'd rather the info be right there at the time I'm ready to attack. It's really just a matter of convenience, mixed in with a little laziness on my part. Heh.

[MightyE]

LadyPhoenix et. al, I do intend to put the clan short names around various locations, particularly pvp screens. This will come "soon" :-)

[LadyPhoenix]

Thanks. :) http://www.imgmag.net/images/famtheresa/smooch.gif

[Gargoyle]

Thanks MightyE!

[MightyE]

Thanks. :) http://www.imgmag.net/images/famtheresa/smooch.gif

:oops:

[demonbox]

It would be interesting if the clans became a bit more agressive, i.e. not just avoding fellow clan members but focusing on a particular clan-- a rival if you were.


Or, it would be fun if there was a day for clans to somehow compete, to see which is more sucessfull in PvP or something like this.

[Sneakabout]

Strange that ye would mention such a thing... ye should join BAD sometime...

[JCP]

Clans?

Competition?

:twisted:

[mysticii]

I'd rather have the feature to tell us if someone is in a clan right there on the PVP screen rather that have to look at someone's bio page. I play the majority of this game at my office, and to be honest, our connection to the net sucks. With the longer page loads and the chance of someone else stealing the kill before I can get to it, I'd rather the info be right there at the time I'm ready to attack. It's really just a matter of convenience, mixed in with a little laziness on my part. Heh.

i totally agree with Hammer, it get annoying to check their bio everytime u want to pvp. especially since my clan mates are the prime target to get slaughtered :roll:

[JCP]

i totally agree with Hammer, it get annoying to check their bio everytime u want to pvp. especially since my clan mates are the prime target to get slaughtered :roll:

MightyE has plans to make clan-based pvp decisions easier for you all.

But be patient - it takes a while to add stuff like this in. :)

[LadyPhoenix]

I'm patient, JCP. Except when it comes to new game days. :lol:

[Sir Freeman]

what I would like in guilds:

x guilds should have their own towns and inns and stuff
x the guild owner should be able to set his clan outlander (non-guild member) friendly if he wants outlanders in his town to do something (otherwise they wont be serviced)
x guild owner should also be able make the town safe or not. When its safe then creatures wont attack outlanders (or guild members)
x Guildless members should have their own town
x guild specialities: thiefery, dark arts, mysticism

mo (unreal) requests comin' soon! :D

[Sneakabout]

It would be nice to be able to break into Clan Halls... have Clans buy extra defenses to stop the rivals stealing things *fantasy request - not going to happen*

[Hammer]

That's funny, Sneakabout, cause I was thinking the same thing. :P

[neXus]

Basically, there should be no game relevant area reserved to clans, on the basis that the game's set on the free-for-all fighting principle. Separate inns etc would therefore hurt game balance. Besides, such a complicated system requires a lot of moderation and the main server does not have that much manpower.

[kalimeros]

8) :idea: As I suggested to my clan hall (no response yet) could we know who killed our clan fellows, as an incentive to pvp?
Perhaps we can earn more experience points avenging a clan fellow? or get more ascendance in the clan (just an RPG feature)?

:roll: Clans and guilds co-existed in Medieval Europe, but in different countries. Clans were more a question of family and loyalty to the clan's head. Guilds were more free-joining societies, leaded by a common task or ability. Maybe LOTGD clans are more like this.

[LadyPhoenix]

Kalimeros, you can already find out who killed whom. It's all in the daily news. PvPs are also listed in the initiator's bios.

[kalimeros]

I know, Lady Theresa Phoenix, but I'm talking about some sort of clan's board that list only clan members killed.

[Hammer]

I definitely agree with Nexus that seperate Clan "cities" will completely unbalance the game. PvP is a part of it. If you don't want to get PvP'd all the time, find a way to get out of range of the people that are killing you all the time, or beef up your eq, or find a way to kill the dragon faster so you'll be at the top of the food chain, or something...

[Jamiefeerick]

How about having a clan innn? When you break into the Clan Inn barman asks what clan you wish to attack or non clan members. Selecting clan brings up a list of the clan members and non clan brigns up clanless people.
Would this be possible with a filter?

[whitey]

I love the clans just the way they are, keep up the good work! <WPR> Snappers RULE!

[neXus]

Look upwards for the clan inn idea. Clans are not meant to give you an advantage since application criteria are basically arbitrary. Therefore, getting ANY reward out of clan interactions would be unbalancing.

[demonbox]

Strange that ye would mention such a thing... ye should join BAD sometime...

I like the members you got in BAM, and have considered it. But how could I be a loner AND in a group?

Actually, every time I consider applying, I hear Groucho's famous quote about being a member of a club...

[Sneakabout]

::tries to throttle demonbox for misspelling BAD.

[demonbox]

::tries to throttle demonbox for misspelling BAD.

Sorry, was BAM was something I did with another game, my mistake

:oops:

[Hammer]

This may have been brought up before, either in this thread or another, but how about Clan specific weapons and armor? They wouldn't have any extra bonuses or be anything special, just allow the Clan leaders to create a list of weapons and armor names that all of their clan members would use from then on out. This may be a coding nightmare to implement, but I thought I'd just offer it up as a suggestion.

Coments? Flames?

[Sneakabout]

*imagines the weapons*

Sounds like a good idea to me!

Or just have a Clan Weapon for the top weapon and have it cost more...

[lonestrider]

If you read people's bio before attacking them you'll see their clan rank/status in the header... this includes whether they're just an applicant, a member or a clan leader and what clan... should be indicitive enough for anyone looking...


I actually think this should be uniformed throughout the game, in the DK, HOF and PVP fight battle screens.

[Zombie]

This may have been brought up before, either in this thread or another, but how about Clan specific weapons and armor? They wouldn't have any extra bonuses or be anything special, just allow the Clan leaders to create a list of weapons and armor names that all of their clan members would use from then on out. This may be a coding nightmare to implement, but I thought I'd just offer it up as a suggestion.

Coments? Flames?

Nice idea. It would be great if each clan had private weapon and armour
shops with custom names for each item. The items would have the same
power as regular items, but give a wider choice.

Clan members could still go to the regular stores if they want a change
instead of being forced to always have the same stuff.

[neXus]

This is an idea I'd like to see realized, however I would like to see such an idea realized only with administrative control over it. Meaning that new weapons, and any changes to a set of weapons should only be activated after an admin has ok'd it...

[Mitsuko]

Actually, I think that idea is interesting. I like it. ^.^

[Sneakabout]

Methinks that BAD would have something like 'Dag Durnick's Mobile Phone Number'... (replace with archaic as necessary.)