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Sneakabout
12-12-2003, 04:47 PM
As we all know, the higher level players on the main server have gone beyond all the regular titles. Therefore why don't we think up LOTS of new titles which could (if any of them are any good) be added into the existing title framework. Also any ideas for weapon sets...? (not that I have anything against the Marquis weapon set in particular...)

i.e. Vizier, Shogun, Lord(why not?), Earl, Baronet, etc.

Akuma AKA Kurama
12-12-2003, 06:43 PM
I like the Lord and Duke and such titles we had back in the old days. Well, we could have Diety, Divine, Undead, and that is all I can think of right now.

demonbox
12-12-2003, 07:06 PM
Could be amusing if one of the level were something like Framboy/Framgirl, a level designed to have fun with anyone not paying too much attention. Perhaps it would break the idea of the game being a series of advancemnts in class/nobility, but could be funny at least.

JCP
12-12-2003, 08:08 PM
More titles? This is what we have so far.

$titles = array(
0=>array("Farmboy","Farmgirl"),
1=>array("Page", "Page"),
2=>array("Squire", "Squire"),
3=>array("Gladiator", "Gladiatrix"),
4=>array("Legionnaire","Legioness"),
5=>array("Centurion","Centurioness"),
6=>array("Sir","Madam"),
7=>array("Reeve", "Reeve"),
8=>array("Steward", "Stewardess"),
9=>array("Mayor", "Mayoress"),
10=>array("Baron", "Baroness"),
11=>array("Count", "Countess"),
12=>array("Viscount", "Viscountess"),
13=>array("Marquis", "Marquisette"),
14=>array("Chancellor", "Chancelress"),
15=>array("Prince", "Princess"),
16=>array("King", "Queen"),
17=>array("Emperor", "Empress"),
18=>array("Angel", "Angel"),
19=>array("Archangel", "Archangel"),
20=>array("Principality", "Principality"),
21=>array("Power", "Power"),
22=>array("Virtue", "Virtue"),
23=>array("Dominion", "Dominion"),
24=>array("Throne", "Throne"),
25=>array("Cherub", "Cherub"),
26=>array("Seraph", "Seraph"),
27=>array("Demigod", "Demigoddess"),
28=>array("Titan", "Titaness"),
29=>array("Archtitan", "Archtitaness"),
30=>array("Undergod", "Undergoddess"),

The best chance you have of adding new titles is to actually give the ones you want added.

The weapon/armor sets are done in an editor. You need a full set of 15 so nothing gets broken. :)

Akuma AKA Kurama
12-12-2003, 08:15 PM
Well I already added mine above.

Kether Rowan
12-12-2003, 11:10 PM
I'd allways preferred 'Lord/Lady' in place of 'Sir/Madam' Really hard to take yourself seriously saying, I'm a 'Sir' now.

Knight, Duke, Archduke, Warlord, Daimyo, Shogun. (In ascending order, but there's obviously space for current titles between some of them.)

I'd thought about, if I ever got my own server working, creating a series of Undead ranks for an Undead village, just to have something to do. Legend of the Dracolich, anyone?

Sneakabout
12-13-2003, 06:04 AM
Legend of the Dracolich would be cool... However, It occurs to me that (coder time permitting) the titles could be tied in with any new class system (or the existing one.) If you had different Title 'ladders' then you could ascend in different ones at different rates, or evene connect them with any new clan system. i.e. Everyone starts at Farmcreature then chooses which 'ladder to advance in after the DK.

Wizard Titles could go: Apprentice, Conjurer, Necromancer, Mage, Sorceror(ess), Wizard, Archmage, Magister etc.

Fighter titles would follow the existing 'Mostly-Nobility' set.

Thief titles could go: Lookout, Pickpocket, Burglar, Thief, Guild Thief, Assasin, Shadow(man), etc.

If you had a set of 17 Titles for each ladder, they could unify and go to the Divine Titles after that... Hence you could have more than one title, but choose which one to use by which one you upgrade... just rambling now.

12-13-2003, 03:40 PM
I'd allways preferred 'Lord/Lady' in place of 'Sir/Madam' Really hard to take yourself seriously saying, I'm a 'Sir' now.

Knight, Duke, Archduke, Warlord, Daimyo, Shogun. (In ascending order, but there's obviously space for current titles between some of them.)



http://www.fragforce.org/forum/images/smilies/bangin.gif

Ahem. Knight = Sir.

12-13-2003, 03:43 PM
Wizard Titles could go: Apprentice, Conjurer, Necromancer, Mage, Sorceror(ess), Wizard, Archmage, Magister etc.

Fighter titles would follow the existing 'Mostly-Nobility' set.

Thief titles could go: Lookout, Pickpocket, Burglar, Thief, Guild Thief, Assasin, Shadow(man), etc.



It would give greater progression if they were merged into a single ladder.

Thief titles at the lower end, and wizard titles below the deities.

:)

whitey
12-13-2003, 06:40 PM
i like sneakabouts way, as i am a theif, i would rather be called a theifly name rather than a Lord, or Reeve, and so on. i think the names should follow with whatever you choose at the beggining, dark arts, theif skills, and fighting. and i think that if you use Inns option to change your selected skills, then it would change your title ladder as well. this is a neat idea, and i would love to see it happen.

Sneakabout
12-13-2003, 06:40 PM
As a dwarven thief, I take great exception to that comment. Whist ye may have regeneration, I can backstab ye into next week. Robes don't block many daggers ;>

Shandra
12-13-2003, 08:18 PM
My only problem with the triple ladder is the fact that then one has to remember 3 titles for each level... (for pvp)... As a (current) Madam, I can easily go for farmcreatures(tm), most pages, and some squires... But if I have to remember page, thief, and sorcerer(ess) all for a 2nd level player..... ::sigh::

Too much remembering for this Lady Knight... :)

Kether Rowan
12-13-2003, 09:36 PM
sir=knight

Negative, Sir is a general term for a noble that is not your liege lord. It applies to Knights in general, but also could apply to an equal Duke, a Prince may also speak of his lesser nobles as 'Sir'.
And again, it sounds really dumb bragging about being 'Sir/Madame' compared to 'Lord/Lady'.

LadyPhoenix
12-13-2003, 10:12 PM
Funny, my favorite level was when I was a Madam. :lol: It took on special meaning with my character's profile... :lol:

Xecutioner
12-14-2003, 10:33 AM
If you had different Title 'ladders' then you could ascend in different ones at different rates, or evene connect them with any new clan system. i.e. Everyone starts at Farmcreature then chooses which 'ladder to advance in after the DK.

Wizard Titles could go: Apprentice, Conjurer, Necromancer, Mage, Sorceror(ess), Wizard, Archmage, Magister etc.

Fighter titles would follow the existing 'Mostly-Nobility' set.

Thief titles could go: Lookout, Pickpocket, Burglar, Thief, Guild Thief, Assasin, Shadow(man), etc.

If you had a set of 17 Titles for each ladder, they could unify and go to the Divine Titles after that... Hence you could have more than one title, but choose which one to use by which one you upgrade... just rambling now.

I really like Sneak's idea about three different ways to go about DK'ing, with 3 different ladder all with different abilities and equiptment like staffs-Wizards, swords-Fighter, daggers and poles for Thieves.

Sneakabout
12-14-2003, 10:35 AM
It could be just me, but having a multiplicity of titles would make the game more varied (and risky). The other thing about setting your titles in one particular path would be that it would link in with having an option to add use points after each kill...

lonestrider
01-05-2004, 02:29 AM
sir=knight

Negative, Sir is a general term for a noble that is not your liege lord. It applies to Knights in general, but also could apply to an equal Duke, a Prince may also speak of his lesser nobles as 'Sir'.
And again, it sounds really dumb bragging about being 'Sir/Madame' compared to 'Lord/Lady'.

Granted sir=knight is a bit over-simplified but I think it is important to point out that sir is a lexigraphic drift from sur (or surname). Originally, it meant anyone in the Gentry and could be any member of the gentry, from knights to Baronets. Nobles of Peerage should NOT be addressed as Sir.

It was considered actually quite an insult to a noble of the Peerage to be addressed as "Sir" and if you expected them to serve well in times of trouble, such insults aren't lightly flung from the mouths of princes, kings or others who may be in line for usurping. The major difference between those of the gentry and those of Peerage is very simple.

The gentry do not as a rule, have lands of their own dominion and do not tax those upon their lands as a public levy. If they have lands at all, the Gentry are taxed accordingly under their Lord's rule. These include Knights and Baronets.

Those of Peerage not only have estates, but also exercise a measure of control over those estates and are typically exempt from most common taxes, as they are in a lessor way, monarchs. They can issue taxes to those people upon their land and expect to be paid as a public official with those takes. In exchange for this peaceful life, they swear to some sort of charter with the crown.

neXus
01-05-2004, 04:18 AM
I really like the tripple ladder idea... It would create a good basis for further roleplaying...

There are a few points one should think about while doing something like that though... Granted, there are those who attack people judging by their titles, but this is generally not a good strategy, the hall of fame gives you a far better idea about how tough someone is... Giving people different titles based on skills adds a great deal of variety at a very small expense, and I believe that it would make the whole thing more fun...

Also, the word Knight has evolved from the german word Knecht... Now Knecht means farm labourer, servant... Interesting, isn't it ?

Sneakabout
01-05-2004, 02:02 PM
It would also add an extra element to clans which have class-based entry requirements...