Should we add more titles?

[JCP]

Ok, here's the deal.

Right now, the titles and equipment start recycling around 30 DKs.

This affects a statistically very few of the accounts on the site. (88/4761 = 1.8%)

However, raising the ceiling for becoming a "god" would affect the entire site. And we imagine the other 98.2% of players getting upset that they are "losing" ranks if we change things around. (Which they did last time.)

We could add more titles in there. Adding titles through DK 50 would help about half the current "gods", so that's not a huge help. But it would be a whole lot of work for us.

We could try to add titles every 5 DKs or something, but that would require some changes to the code. Again, a whole lot of work.

We've avoided doing all this for several reasons:
1. It is a significant amount of work.
2. It really only affects a few people positively.
3. Most of those people will not see all of the work on the equipment for DKs that they will have "missed".
4. We think most people will be upset.
5. Time spent on this project is time not spent on other things.

If you want us to work on it, you'll have to convince us to do so.

No guarantees, but this poll will help.

[Sholva]

We could try to add titles every 5 DKs or something, but that would require some changes to the code. Again, a whole lot of work.

How about adding sub-titles (no pun intended) like:

- Apprentice Knight
- Junior Knight
- Knight
- Senior Knight
- Master Knight

Just a thought...

[JCP]

No matter how it happens, adding titles (or sub titles) means work for the staff, and some people may not appreciate it, which is what this poll is trying to establish.

Don't worry. IF there's enough support for the idea we'll figure out a way to do it.

[Atrus]

I vote yes, because its a hectic climb to Godhood..but the excitement of new titles and new weapons is sort of missing after you reach the summit.

New heights to scale, new titles, more bragging rights. :)

[SaucyWench]

I think the problem is the amount of work. Only two people are able to do that work, and (1) both of them have real life issues that have prevented either of them working on code for the last month or so, and (2) when they actually do have time to do any code, there is a big list of necessary items that have to happen first. And I mean a big list. And after those necessary items is a long list of feature requests. And one of them involves code change to more than 30 files. And we are not talking minor changes, we are talking rewriting hundreds of lines of code.

I'm not against more DK titles. But I can see this from a code perspective, and I have voted no simply because I think it is totally and utterly unfair to heap anything else into the "todo" list of Kendaer and MightyE.

[sativ]

i almost reached godhood now... and i'd say some new titles would definately be nice. but on the other hand... what's supposed to be higher than "god"?

[Sneakabout]

Titles probably would just be added on to the end... but put imbetween existing ones, making it longer.

[Talisman]

I've been thinking the game needs some new title for quite some time. The addition of new titles is a relatively simple process - in fact, the hardest aspect of it would be the invention of new ones.

I like Sneak's suggestion of making 'sub' ranks - that would enable a larger collection of titles without necessarily coming up with that many unique names. I don't think they should be added at the end of the chain, however. As most of the titles have some recognition of level, any new ones should be inserted where most appropriate whenever possible.

One disadvantage with the current 30 title limit is the quick recognition of a powerful or new god. Yes, you can check the bio, but isn't that what titles aid with as well?

If you have ideas for titles, post them here and I'll try to come up with a new list (which may or may not be accepted). While a title shift may concern some players, I think the end result would be worth the minor inconvenience...

...Just my two bits worth...

[JCP]

IF added, they won't simply be tacked on to the end - the whole system would need to be reviewed.

Again, as Saucy wrote, this would not be an easy thing to do, and such an undertaking needs to be more than just a good idea - it needs a lot of support.

[Okami]

There do seem to be a whole lot more Gods now that there used to be so yes, I think adding new titles or subtitles would be nice. However, I know it's all really in the hands of whoever wants to code it.

[Nightwind]

I'd copy and paste out 5 copies of each of 19 - 27 in theory producing metacode for a brute force aproach...

checking my listing, you'll see that some of those had as few as 0 (and most only about 5) Lumping 25 people together as Angels even with a differnce of +/- 2 dk from the median would not be signifigantly differnt.

add in some more spacers before the 'big 3'

DemiGod 70+

Titan from 80+

Archtitan from 90+

then maybe god stays at 100

that puts god so high that'll take me about 10 years to get there...

Even if no new eq was made, and existing sets where just repeted, stretching the intervals after a while makes sence to me. Lets face it, you had a new set every 30 gamedays as a farmy through centurion...

if your getting a kill every 6 days, 5 kills will still give you the same length of time to enjoy the feeling of "it's good to be the king"

[Syrius]

* raises her arms to the sky and screams "Wont somebody think of the coders??" *

(Note that this was in perfect Maud Flanders style :wink: )

[Terron]

I suggest keeping some of the armor sets for levels, change them as you go up less frequently. but change it early for DKS like make a farmboy, page, squire. Then keep the weapons the same for a few and the names the same a little, like already said, Jr Squire, Squire, Master Squire all with the same weapon set. I think starting players would need a quick change to keep their intrests, but older players will take the same stuff for a while, after 80 dks, I know I have.

[Acemaster]

i voted yes, as I thought it would be really cool, but regretted it after I realized how much work it would be. I think it's unfair to change it so some people would have worse titles (no making god 100 dk's). But there should be some distinction between gods- 10 dk's, maybe? And I don't like the idea of subtitles. Too clunky.

[JCP]

Please - do not worry about the minute details of HOW this will happen. That is irrelevant.

Any addition of titles would be a revision of the current system, not just tacking on more to the end. Exactly how this will be done is not worth discussing until we are convinced that a majority of people would be happy with a revision of any kind.

[Geet]

I am indifferent. I'm well into 'Godhood' and play for DK rank and speed rather than title at this point.

If it came to it, I would rather see the programming effort be directed at some other game features. That's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

[Hostillius]

Aren't there other things that higher-ranking characters would rather have instead of new ranks and a longer journey to Godhood?

Maybe just allowing gods to choose their own custom title after every 10 DK's or something via the Hunters' Lodge.

OR another alternative...

Using the Hunters' Lodge as a means of allowing high-DK players to have exclusive titles would be just as effective for distinguishing between levels of Godhood. Their rank would still be "god," but there would be some way of telling how accomplished those players were.

That would probably be easier for the coders and would accomplish the same goal.

[JCP]

Aren't there other things that higher-ranking characters would rather have instead of new ranks and a longer journey to Godhood?

Maybe just allowing gods to choose their own custom title after every 10 DK's or something via the Hunters' Lodge.

OR another alternative...

Using the Hunters' Lodge as a means of allowing high-DK players to have exclusive titles would be just as effective for distinguishing between levels of Godhood. Their rank would still be "god," but there would be some way of telling how accomplished those players were.

That would probably be easier for the coders and would accomplish the same goal.

Ummm....

No.

If they want a custom title, they can donate like everyone else.

This discussion is about changing the current ranking system, not about giving people free lodge points.

[JCP]

By the way, so far all signs point to "no revisions".

There are just not enough votes to convince me that enough people care about titles.

[mysticii]

i agree that custom titles should only be available to donators...besides if someone has risen to godhood, they should know who is stronger than themselves. besides the people who are addicted to this game as much as myself would find every dollar and donate for their own perfect title :twisted:

*looks over at jcp* "so how much do i get again?"

[Nightwind]

looks like 2/3 majority of those who voted for yes...

the question is, just how many people actually read the forum

[JCP]

looks like 2/3 majority of those who voted for yes...

the question is, just how many people actually read the forum

Doesn't matter who's winning until we get enough votes. Lack of votes = not enough people care about this issue for us to work on it.

[Hostillius]

I was not suggesting that players be given free points. You have the power (if you want) to allow players to choose from a preset selection of titles via the Lodge interface. You can award donation points and surely you can remove them.

I was only trying to suggest an alternative process for awarding higher titles than "God."

But nevermind.

I voted no anyway.

[Booger]

the costume shop that was/is in esoterra gave temporary titles for a few days for a nominal fee. It is designed not to be available all the time, but it would be pretty easy to convert ithe temporary titles to be available more permanently for lodge points (I actually thought of this at one point, who knows if I will do it =P). It would still require the lodge points though, and those won't be awarded for just playing the game.

I could make it available in some town all the time for players with enough DKs, but it would be practically the same thing as awarding everyone above a certain level a custom title without getting the donator points to them.

[Acemaster]

the costume shop that was/is in esoterra gave temporary titles for a few days for a nominal fee. It is designed not to be available all the time, but it would be pretty easy to convert ithe temporary titles to be available more permanently for lodge points (I actually thought of this at one point, who knows if I will do it =P). It would still require the lodge points though, and those won't be awarded for just playing the game.

I could make it available in some town all the time for players with enough DKs, but it would be practically the same thing as awarding everyone above a certain level a custom title without getting the donator points to them.
:idea:
I would like it if I could have my own custom title for, say, a week, for 50-100 lodge points. That's fair, in my humble opinion.

[Elessa]

looks like 2/3 majority of those who voted for yes...

the question is, just how many people actually read the forum

fine question....

a minority of players make a decision for the majority. this is a definite minority voting when compared to the total number of players. what is it, 1.5%?

aye, ignorance of the forums is no excuse. perhaps a note in the MotD to alert players of this poll?

i think there will be a hue and cry if such is implemented without a more solid sample of the players casting their opinions.

[Syrius]

aye, ignorance of the forums is no excuse. perhaps a note in the MotD to alert players of this poll?

i think there will be a hue and cry if such is implemented without a more solid sample of the players casting their opinions.

:arrow: Visit the FORUMS!
‡‡Director jcp – 2004-12-02 08:08:45

There was one a few days ago. Maybe a repeat?

[Nightwind]

I think it's having to register, again, for the furm mayhap to even vote there...

can the settings be tweaked to allow one vote per ip no matter the state of registration?

[Skandron]

I am not sure that is something that PHPBB is currently capable of doing. At least from forums I have run with it I have not seen that.

[Nightwind]

can't it be set to alow public level access instead of registered level?

[JCP]

Actually, we needed to move the poll to the game MotD, but we've been busy with critical MotDs recently.

We've figured out a good way to handle having more titles, but to actually progress it from a framework to a fully fleshed out and coded system we need to be convinced that it is something that people want.

[Nightwind]

i wouldlove to hear about the system you have in mind, even if you never obtain the 'copius free time' that it might take to impliment it

[Fionnabhair]

Maybe the way to figure out whether coding new titles is worthwhile is to ask WHY players want new titles rather than WHETHER they want them.

For instance, if players are requesting expansion of the current title structure, it may be because they are egomaniacs and like the prestige of new and different titles. Or it could be because once they reach godhood, they are a bit bored because each DK is like the last.

I suspect the latter is the case, and the way to address the issue may be to continue working on those great new modules and possibly make them exclusive to higher DK-level players so there is something more to work toward than a title. After all, the most dedicated of us play the game because we love to explore new things. True, there is a thrill with each DK, but the best part of the game, in my opinion, is the creative modules that add so many dimensions to the game.

[Enforcer]

So, two weeks passed by since JCP opened this thread. But the poll still is under 100 votes. Maybe we give another week or two we should set a goal. The progress bar for childs play was great. Could we use it for the poll either?
But the poll must reach at least 500 if not 1000 in order to be representative.
I voted no because I know what it means to keep a page up and running. More titles IS codeworthy. BUT not for a minority of 1.2 percent (even if this 1 percent seems to the most active - the most active -> can we get this in hall of fame?).
Perhaps use your coding time for a little game in the gardens with the riddle gnome... 8)

[Elessa]

So, two weeks passed by since JCP opened this thread. But the poll still is under 100 votes. Maybe we give another week or two we should set a goal. The progress bar for childs play was great. Could we use it for the poll either?
But the poll must reach at least 500 if not 1000 in order to be representative.


i suspect that ye hath not read the MoTD of late. jcp is also conducting the poll there. as of this moment here are the results. as ye can see, 443 players have now voted, providing a more accurate reflection of the desire for such a change.

Poll: Should we add more titles?
‡‡Director jcp – 2004-12-10 21:19:57
We are considering revising the current DK title system.

Right now, the titles and equipment start recycling around 30 DKs.

This affects a statistically very few of the accounts on the site. (88/4761 = 1.8%)

However, raising the ceiling for becoming a "god" would affect the entire site. And we imagine the other 98.2% of players getting upset that they are "losing" ranks if we change things around. (Which they did last time.)

We have ideas of HOW to do this, but doing so will require us to spend time and effort that could be spent on coding other things, so I want to be sure that having a completely new set of titles is something that people want before we seriously consider doing so.

The results of this poll will be used to help us make the decision to revamp the title system or not.
YES! 30 titles is not enough! I want MORE! (329 - 74.3%)

NO! 30 is a good number to max out at! (114 - 25.7%)

[Enforcer]

Oh, yes.
Thinking twice on having a poll in motd results in "Oh, what a pitty".
They dont know what it is all about since they dont read the whole thread.
Saying "More titles!" isnt enough IMHO.

So, the motd-poll isnt such "speaking" as the poll here in the forum.
So we have currently even below 500 votes which means a 10 percent.

I said 500 if not 1000 and meant it here in the forum!
But we have 51 at this time. Since the changes affect mostly the 30 DKs and above THEY have to be asked. But we only have 21 of 88 of them.
And you can see that THEY are more judging then the ones who arent affected. For the latter its only a 50/50-choice in the poll and mostly (I expect) the "more-is-better"-effect that counts.
:wink: :wink:

[Enforcer]

It has been mentioned in another thread last year, that it would be interesting to see, how much DK each title combines (All Seraph have together xx Points).
I have done this now and from Page (321 DK) to Viscount (216) we have a relative homogenous group as we have from Marquis (91) to Undergod (60).
But then the gods have a united DK-count of 5603!
So 52 percent of all DKs are accomplished through 94 Gods.
An the other hand 980 users (page to undergod) have 48 percent of DK.
Comparing the both sides:

Gods Others
Users 94 980
DKs 5603 5164
DKs/User 59,61 5,27

And here the complete list:
DK. Title Users DKs
1 Page 321 321
2 Squire 158 316
3 Gladiator 82 246
4 Legionaire 65 260
5 Centurion 69 345
6 Sir 32 192
7 Reeve 33 231
8 Steward 19 152
9 Mayor 28 252
10 Baron 24 240
11 Count 22 242
12 Viscount 18 216
13 Marquise 7 91
14 Chancellor 9 126
15 Prince 9 135
16 King 9 144
17 Emperor 8 136
18 Angel 6 108
19 Archangel 10 190
20 Principality 9 180
21 Power 6 126
22 Virtue 4 88
23 Dominion 5 115
24 Throne 8 192
25 Cherub 3 75
26 Seraph 4 104
27 Demigod 2 54
28 Titan 5 140
29 Archtitan 3 87
30 Undergod 2 60
31 God 94 5603

[Nightwind]

you .. completed my project, thank you... thank you.

now can you post that in the aproprate place too?

[Talisman]

I get the impression that your desired outcome is already determined, and that you wish to manipulate statistics in whatever manner is required to support your outcome. Soooo...let me offer these statistics and comments in return:

There are 4813 registered players in Central.
3735 of those players are Farmboys and Farmgirls.
1078 players have one or more dragonkills.
320 of those players have only one dragonkill, 758 have more than one.

Of all those farmies, how many are one time visitors - people who come in, check the game out, decide it's not for them and leave, never to return? Pretty hard to say, but looking at some of the stale login dates, it's a fairly high number. Apply the same to those with only 1 or 2 dragonkills who decide the game is repetitive and wander away. That kinda reduces the numbers somewhat.

A large portion of those Farmpeople are quite new to the game, and quite possibly have no knowledge of, understanding of, or opinion on the subject of more titles. They may refrain from voting (as it IS voluntary) for that reason.

So let's say, conservatively, there are 2500 farmpeople who do care about titles, and maybe 800 of those with DKs are still active enough to care. That brings the number down to a very generous 3300 players.

Now...how many of those players are really single individuals with multiple accounts? Hmmmm...believe it or not, a good portion of them. Many have 3 or more accounts, but once again, on the side of generosity, we'll just say 60 percent have 2 accounts, which means their vote really only counts once. That drops the number of players by about 1,000...so we're really polling around 2300 players. And this is probably still on the high side of reality.

Of those 2300 players, only 481 have cared enough to vote in the MoTD poll, bringing the standings to around 75% in favour, 25% opposed. In pretty much any type of poll or election, that would be considered pretty representative of the overall populace, and would be binding to any politician seeking office.

Now...leaving the manipulation of numbers aside, some other concerns have been that this would take away from concentration on game development.

The game is always in a state of development. JT and MightyE work on it constantly, or at least when their private lives allow for it. There is also a healthy community of modders who feed their own creativity into the game, a lot of which gets picked up for inclusion in the game's core code. I am personally very much in favour of more titles (as may be obvious by now), so much so that I have offered to do all the gruntwork for the project if it gets the go ahead. Even if it doesn't get the go ahead for central, I feel so strongly about it that I will likely pursue it anyhow, upload it to DragonPrime, making it available to likeminded game admins.

I could say more, but I think I've used up my quota of words for the week.

Also, remember that I'm only expressing _my_ opinion here, not that of the staff as a whole.

[JCP]

In pretty much any type of poll or election, that would be considered pretty representative of the overall populace, and would be binding to any politician seeking office.

Good thing I'm not a politician.

To explain: many times the discussion of a new feature involves what we think the players want. And getting actual opinions goes a long way in that aspect of the discussion.

But it's only one part of the discussion.

[onedarkdemon1]

well some sugesstions for titles which you said should be posted are
hero
legend
dragon master
dragon tracker
raider
general (which suprises me is not there)
king/queen of gods
master
trainee
apprentice
these are just sugesstions and if you use them you may put them anywhere you want

[God Valxirion]

general is a good one, other army ranks could be put in too, now we only have legionnaire and centurion

[onedarkdemon1]

so to say this I just read up on social studies because i was doing homework and I found i think some titles and i could use this book to help so I will now look throgh and reply soon

[onedarkdemon1]

here are some i found
barbarian
conquer
consul(might stretch it a bit)
crusader
dictator
elite emporer
oracle(person who speaks to gods might be like before demigod but you can choose)
rajah(indian prince could be pre prince like)
tyrant(also stretches it)

also if you need any help think titles (you might know this)you could read some mythology and i also forgot a few titles like
immortal
powerful

[God Valxirion]

it must be medieval titles

I was thinking of Duke which can be put close to Baron or Count

General can be put around Marquis or Chancellor or maybe Prince

Maybe Daemon can be a rank, or Greater Daemon or Lesser Daemon, those can be put under Undergod

[onedarkdemon1]

actually it doesnt have to be medievl titles becuase centourian is a roman army status and leoginaire is also roman

[grind]

New titles at this moment:

200 Dragon Master / Mistress
199
198
197
196
195
194
193
192
191
190
189
188
187
186
185
184
183
182
181
180
179
178
177
176
175
174
173
172
171
170
169
168
167
166
165 God / Goddess of Thunder
164
163
162
161
160
159
158
157
156
155
154
153
152
151
150
149
148
147
146
145
144 God / Goddess of Fire
143
142
141
140
139
138
137
136
135
134
133
132
131
130
129
128
127
126
125
124 God / Goddess of the Seas
123
122 God / Goddess of the Seas
121
120
119
118
117
116
115
114
113
112 God / Goddess of Crystal
111
110 God / Goddess of Crystal
109 God / Goddess
108 God / Goddess
107 God / Goddess
106 God / Goddess
105 God / Goddess
104 God / Goddess
103 God / Goddess
102 God / Goddess
101
100
099
098
097
096
095 Archtitan
094
093 Titan
092
091
090
089 Cherub
088
087 Throne
086
085 Dominion
084
083
082 Virtue
081
080 Power
079
078 Divinity
077 Pricipallity
076 Pricipallity
075 Archangel
074
073
072 Angel
071 Emperor / Empress
070 Emperor / Empress
069 King / Queen
068 King / Queen
067
066 Prince / Princess
065 Magistrate
064 Magistrate
063 Noble
062 Noble
061
060 Ambassador to the South
059
058
057 Chancellor
056
055
054 Duke
053
052 Marquis / Marchioness
051 Count / Countess
050 Count / Countess
049 Viscount
048 Viscount
047 Baron
046 Baron
045
044 Tribune
043 Mayor
042 Mayor
041 Councillor
040 Councillor
039 Elder
038 Elder
037 Archmagi
036 Archmagi
035 Wizard
034 Wizard
033
032 Warlock
031 Enchanter
030 Enchanter
029 Sorceror
028 Sorceror
027 Theurgist
026 Theurgist
025 Invoker
024 Invoker
023 Apprentice
022 Apprentice
021 Knight of the Boar / the Fang / the Lake / Ni
020 Knight of the Boar / the Fang / the Lake / Ni
019 Conqueror
018 Conqueror
017 Steward
016 Steward
015 Reeve
014 Reeve
013 Sir / Madam
012 Sir / Madam
011 Centurion / Centurioness
010 Centurion / Centurioness
009 Cavalier
008 Legionnaire
007 Gladiator
006 Squire
005 Page
004 Soldier
003 Trader
002 Villager
001 Traveler

[Ayla]

why 2 different dks listed for god/godess of crystal and seas? Just curious

[JCP]

remember:

dks 1-10 have unique titles

after than, count by twos

so dk 10 and 11 have the same titles, as do 12 and 13, etc.

until dk 100, where you need to count by 10's

dks 100-109 are god/goddess
dks 110-119 are god/goddess of ...

there are three "of ..." for each set of 10

until dk 200, which is Dragon Master / Dragon Mistress

(and we're not quite done adjusting titles yet)

There. That should help.

[Pwyll]

And at 300 - Dragon Scourge?
400 - Dragon Nemesis
500 - Dragon's Woe
1,000 - Dragon's Bane

Just thinking ahead... :wink:

As for cross-cultural Medieval titles, we have Thane (Scottish), Chieftain (Irish), Samurai and Shogun (Japanese), and many more to choose from...

[YurianStonebow]

Okay, but what about the female counterparts of those new titles you guys have in mind? Can you still squeeze that into the new code?

[Pwyll]

They don't need female equivalents - they're gender-neutral.

[Nightwind]

gender neutrality is nice, but some ladies like being ladies.... or have you not noticed what lengths a certain pink text lady has gone to?

[Ebru]

has the title change affected mount avaliability as well or is that still going off DK's?

[JCP]

has the title change affected mount avaliability as well or is that still going off DK's?

DK numbers only.

[Jelly]

Just wanted to say great job guys! With the titles where there are several options are we able to chose or do they get randomly assigned? Also don't you think there should be an Ambassador to the North as well? I am from about as far south as you can get and it would be plain odd to be Ambassador to the South. Just a suggestion. Oh and another one. I agree that some females like being obviously female (I am one of them) so a suggestion of Witch/Hag instead of Warlock/Wizard. Sure there are negative connotations but I can live with that.

I am otherwise very happy.

[JCP]

Just wanted to say great job guys! With the titles where there are several options are we able to chose or do they get randomly assigned? Also don't you think there should be an Ambassador to the North as well? I am from about as far south as you can get and it would be plain odd to be Ambassador to the South. Just a suggestion. Oh and another one. I agree that some females like being obviously female (I am one of them) so a suggestion of Witch/Hag instead of Warlock/Wizard. Sure there are negative connotations but I can live with that.

I am otherwise very happy.

1. Random.
2. Ambassador to the South is in there
3. So are female titles for Warlock and Wizard.
4. Does this mean you are completely very happy?

[Adrica]

You guys are doing a great job...

now I have to go back and read over the new titles so I don't try to kill people with a big disparity of DKs to mine (in either direction)

[Jelly]

I am almost completely happy yes. The ability to choose the random titles would make me more so.

Also I KNOW Ambassador to the South was is there, I was asking for Ambassador to the North.

I will say it again though. Thanks for the hard work.

[Syrius]

/me likes pink...

[Pwyll]

gender neutrality is nice, but some ladies like being ladies.... or have you not noticed what lengths a certain pink text lady has gone to?

So what are the female titles for Conqueror, Apprentice, Ambassador, and all the orders of Angels (Throne, Dominion, Power etc.)?

Quite a few of the existing titles are gender-neutral, my suggestions fit right in.

[Bartelby]

Have there been any title changes lately? Could you please post the current listing? :?:

[Darcia]

0 Stablehand, Peasant, Shepherd/Shepherdess, Farmboy/Farmgirl
1 Traveler, Traveler
2 Villager, Villager
3 Trader, Trader
4 Soldier, Soldier
5 Page, Page
6 Squire, Squire
7 Gladiator, Gladiatrix
8 Legionnaire, Legionnairess
9 Cavalier, Cavalier
10 Centurion, Centurioness
12 Sir, Madam
14 Reeve, Reeve
16 Steward, Stewardess
18 Conqueror, Conqueror
20 Knight of Ni, Knight of Ni
20 Knight of the Lake, Lady of the Lake
20 Knight of the Fang, Knight of the Fang
20 Knight of the Boar, Knight of the Boar
22 Apprentice, Apprentice
24 Invoker, Invoker
26 Thaumaturgist, Thaumaturgist
28 Sorceror, Sorceress
30 Enchanter, Enchantress
32 Warlock, Witch
34 Wizard, Wizardess
36 Archmagi, Archmagi
38 Elder, Elder
40 Councillor of War, Councillor of War
40 Councillor of Peace, Councillor of Peace
40 Councillor of Art, Councillor of Art
40 Councillor of Magic, Councillor of Magic
42 Mayor, Mayor
44 Tribune, Tribune
46 Baron, Baroness
48 Viscount, Viscountess
50 Count, Countess
52 Marquis, Marchioness
54 Duke, Duchess
56 Chancellor, Chancelloress
58 Consul, Consul
60 Ambassador to the West, Ambassador to the West
60 Ambassador to the East, Ambassador to the East
60 Ambassador to the North, Ambassador to the North
60 Ambassador to the South, Ambassador to the South
62 Noble, Noble
64 Magistrate, Magistrate
66 Prince, Princess
68 King, Queen
70 Emperor of the Sun, Empress of the Sun
70 Emperor of Vordus, Empress of Vordus
70 Emperor of Erela, Empress of Erela
70 Emperor of Lurani, Empress of Lurani
72 Angel, Angel
74 Archangel, Archangel
76 Principality, Principality
78 Divinity, Divinity
80 Power, Power
82 Virtue, Virtue
84 Dominion, Dominioness
86 Throne, Throne
88 Cherub, Cherub
90 Seraph, Seraph
92 Titan, Titaness
94 Archtitan, Archtitaness
96 Demigod, Demigoddess
98 Undergod, Undergoddess
100 God, Goddess
110 God of Earth, Goddess of Earth
110 God of Stone, Goddess of Stone
110 God of Crystal, Goddess of Crystal
120 God of Water, Goddess of Water
120 God of the Seas, Goddess of the Seas
120 God of Ice, Goddess of Ice
130 God of Wind, Goddess of Wind
130 God of Air, Goddess of Air
130 God of Mist, Goddess of Mist
140 God of Fire, Goddess of Fire
140 God of Smoke, Goddess of Smoke
140 God of the Flames, Goddess of the Flames
150 God of Silver, Goddess of Silver
150 God of Gold, Goddess of Gold
150 God of Platinum, Goddess of Platinum
160 God of Thunder, Goddess of Thunder
160 God of Lightning, Goddess of Lightning
160 God of Storms, Goddess of Storms
170 God of Light, Goddess of Light
170 God of Darkness, Goddess of Darkness
170 God of Sound, Goddess of Sound
180 God of Magic, Goddess of Magic
180 God of Fear, Goddess of Fear
180 God of Fury, Goddess of Fury
190 God of Might, Goddess of Might
190 God of Power, Goddess of Power
190 God of War, Goddess of War
200 Dragon Master, Dragon Mistress

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This threadZ0r actually asked if we should add more - it's now quite misleading, as we *did* add them (thank you Darcia for pasting the list). I'm going to lock the thread so that we don't keep wondering when new titles will arrive =)