MiniGryph

[JadedGeek]

The MiniGryph is the most expensive mount available to me at this point, but I'm not sure its the best one for me since I cant easily cross-reference all the charactistics of all the mounts. Does anyone know of a good source for information that could help me understand my options?

Thanks

[Nomad]

What server is this on? I've never heard of the MiniGryph myself.

[JadedGeek]

FrostE's CLASSIC SERVER at WWW.LOTGD.NET

[RichPlaystation]

Same here, although I am guessing there wouldn't be, as with most game features you would get alot of 'trial and error'

As a general rule the more expensive it is the better it is in the land of LotGD but as I say, I have no idea what that mount is like so don't take my word for it

[X-Kal]

I've seen that one before, too. I've never tried it, but I'd wager that it's a nice enough mount. Personally, I've got a Gryphon, so I do know that there are better ones out there. The stalls don't always have the same thing from day to day, and I think the two stalls have different things from each other on the same day, so be sure to check both of them.

[JadedGeek]

When is the Gryphon available on Classic and how much does it cost?

[Shiqra]

Mount availability is a function of both the number of DKs you have and what the RNG feels like populating the stables with that day. I don't remember what it costs, but I know it is a lot, and I vaguely remember you need more than a few DKs under your belt. There may be more information in these fourms - I seem to recall a thread about mounts. Do a search for mount or Gryphon and you might find it.

[X-Kal]

Gryphons cost ~200 gems, if my estimate is correct. I can sell my gryphon for 100 gems, and I believe the resale price is 50% the original cost.

[Lauri]

There are other things to consider besides number of DKs etc. Many of the available mounts will become available before they are the best one for you and the MiniGryph is one of them. If it has only just appeared to you in the stables, don't buy it yet.

If memory serves, the buy price is 150 gems. I made this mount because at the time you really had to jump from a Peryton all the way to the Gryphon which meant keeping 130+ gems on hand and they were always in danger from Lonestrider (there was no jeweller at the time).

You included no info on your character. If the MG is showing only recently, the Peryton would probably be my recommendation for now. However, it is

not as good in Resurrected spirits

[Valancy]

The MiniGryph just became available to me since my last kill. i only saw it for the first time today. i found it interesting that the description said that Gryphons are best for warriors with a lot of experience. this made me think

perhaps the MiniGryph isn't so great for warriors at the lower levels. anyway, as Lauri said, i have noticed or been told previously that some mounts become available before they're a good idea for some people to try them out...

i decided to hold off for now, anyway. plus, i like my Wyvern.

[X-Kal]

In my experience, the Gryphon makes it incredibly easy to manage the higher levels, while the lower ones can be quite tricky. I've been known to spend more than a game day on level 1, but it's quite abnormal if I can't get from 10 to 15 in a single day... and 7 to 15 is easy if I allow for a single resurrect.

/me waits 30-60 seconds for the edit delay to finish.

/me dies of boredom

/me twiddles his thumbs

/me wins!

[Lauri]

Correct, both of you.

The MiniGryph (and the Gryphon, same makeup at a smaller power) increase in strength as you level up, and yes, they are not suitable for people the moment they're available - people who stupidly went nuts and bought them as soon as they could were sorry as they were LESS useful than some of the other mounts.

The Ettile, on the other hand, has its strength INVERSE to level, which means it is most useful at level 1 and becomes less so as you level through to 15. It begins MUCH stronger than the Gryph and ends up weaker at level 15.

For this reason it is perfect for someone with a "low hitpoint / low strength / low defense and high turns" strategy. These people complete their DKs MUCH FASTER as they have more turns, have easier forest fights (creatures are based on YOUR stats) but they are pummeled in PvP. They are ordinarily in a lot of danger in level 1 as two big hits can kill send their low HP below zero. The Ettile is a good friend to keep them safe(R) at that time.

[JadedGeek]

Converting Gems to Jewelry was mentioned earlier as a way to preserve them from Lonestrider. I've considered buying a Ring at times.
Is the resale value the same as the purchase price?

[JadedGeek]

Incidentally, thank you everyone for the comments. I'm not positive its the best mount for me but I like it because it seems very solid and reliable. I have 15DK's and have my points spread evenly which is working fairly well for me although I may alter that distribution at some point.

[RichPlaystation]

Converting Gems to Jewelry was mentioned earlier as a way to preserve them from Lonestrider. I've considered buying a Ring at times.
Is the resale value the same as the purchase price?

Nah, I think it's about half.....not sure as I used all my turns so I can't check for you sadly, may do later if no one else answers first :)

[kickme]

Default is 50%

[RichPlaystation]

Just had a check myself too and indeed it is, well there you go then :D

[JadedGeek]

I'm confused then. How is losing half your Gems to a Jeweler in Gluckmore better than occasionally having Lonestrider steal a few? He usually just gets his ass kicked when he bothers me anyway.
What am I missing? Is there some point at later DK's where he takes them all?

[JackZackson]

He takes some gems but the more you have the more he takes, this can be frustrating when you loose to him and have 149 gems and you just saw a gryphon for sale in Degolburg

[Nomad]

Beating him tends to be more productive anyway. He's not that difficult.

[Lauri]

I think some would disagree. The more you are carrying, the more often he will also appear. Besides that, your server might be set differently to lotgd.net and so he asks for less ;)

[RichPlaystation]

One thing no one has mentioned, tha fact that if you already bought everything available with gems then they just sit there doing nothing, might as well buy up some jewellrey 8)

edit: Lonestrider's thieves have laid you unconscious, and help themselves to the 421 gems - I just got that on Dragoncat! Think on :wink:

[JadedGeek]

I think some would disagree. The more you are carrying, the more often he will also appear. Besides that, your server might be set differently to lotgd.net and so he asks for less ;)

I'm on your server. I guess I usually beat him due to conservative playing. I'm almost always at full HP and have a spell point or 2 available.

Nevertheless, there is always a certain amount of worry about carrying around lots of gems.
I'm at 16 DK's now...any hint about how long it will be until the Gryphon and/or Ettile become available?

[X-Kal]

Personally, I had a gryphon at that point and did rather well. I was able to pull off a 7-day DK at my best, but I averaged between 9-12 days per DK, which I thought was rather decent for that level. However, I didn't pay too much attention to buffs and such at that point, so I was just sorta piddling through the game amusedly ;)

[Furion]

Minor spoiler below

:points out that Oliver (the jeweller on Central) returns 80% on jewelry, not 50%.

[JadedGeek]

Minor spoiler below

:points out that Oliver (the jeweller on Central) returns 80% on jewelry, not 50%.

Thank you very much. Thats useful info. Numbers like that change the situtation dramatically.

[X-Kal]

Remember that you'll want to have leftover gems on hand, or Lonestrider will steal your jewelry.

[RichPlaystation]

Remember that you'll want to have leftover gems on hand, or Lonestrider will steal your jewelry.

He takes your jewellrey anyway, I have tones of gems and he STILL takes mine sometimes

[X-Kal]

That's maddening! Ooh, good thing I have neither gems nor jewelry to steal.

dum de dum how long 'till I can post? Flood control have mercy!

Ooh! I win!

Or not...

/me tries to edit and does the patience dance!

I win!

[Lauri]

Remember that you'll want to have leftover gems on hand, or Lonestrider will steal your jewelry.

He takes your jewellrey anyway, I have tones of gems and he STILL takes mine sometimesYup. He is statistically far more likely to take the cheaper jewellery than the more expensive. When I wrote the code, I set him up so that he will only consider touching the expensive stuff *after* having a shot at the cheapest and being unsuccessful. If he does succeed on the cheap ones, he stops at one (ie, he won't take a bracelet and a necklace at the same time).

But don't hate me for making him take jewellery. I had to do it! Having Oliver's Jewelry Store in the core release was conditional on Lonestrider being able to steal jewellery. It's all Moonchilde JT's fault =)

[RichPlaystation]

It's all Moonchilde JT's fault =)

Blame it all on him *tut* :P

[Grim Jestor]

...just in case an inquisitive mind ever peruses this thread again, I'd like to advise skipping the minigryph and waiting for a full gryphon. I bought the minigryph as soon as it was availible, and was somewhat impressed (aside from a small negative buff which i did not like at all) with its attack, called minigryph fury or some such thing. however, i almost immediately saw the full gryphon, at which point i sold the minigryph and bought it, having a surplus of gems at the time thanks to my felyn race. it seemed to me that the gryphon was the exact same as the minigryph, except there was a better buff and more free travels (i think the minigryph may actually take some travel, but i don't remember)... and after much rambling, i arrive at my impression, that being the minigryph is nothing more than a teaser for the full gryphon and a waste of gems. the full gryphon also gives more attack rounds, and is worth waiting for no matter how tired you are of your roc or wyvern, which are fine creatures in themselves.

hopefully, i haven't spoiled anything for anyone, i just remember being very annoyed with myself for not waiting and wasting so many gems buying two creatures so close together. of course, shortly after that, my next gem pile was ruined after running into lonestrider three times in one day and losing around 75 gems, at which point i started buying jewelry...


font re-colored due to spoilers, as well as probably bad advice... *thanks valancy for the tip*

[Valancy]

hey Grim, as an FYI if you are posting anything "spoilerish" (something that might spoil the game for somebody else reading this thread) you might consider changing your font colour to white... it makes what you say harder to read so that people have to highlight over it in order to see it.